@will I have been in talks with a testing lab and they’re telling me that the P0 is not certified in any way, and that the fact that it’s used in the Photon is completely irrelevant to getting the module certified in different product. Can you please point to some document that substantiates the claims you made about the P0 in this thread? What you’re saying makes sense, but I have subject-matter-experts on the other end (who don’t sell this product, but also stand to profit from services rendered to me in the matter) saying that getting a device with P0 certified would be a “from-scratch” FCC cert. I have checked your certifications page, and it still doesn’t answer my question without any room for interpretation.
Hey there – sorry for the slow reply.
The P0 is modular certified by the FCC – you can find documentation for that here:
https://docs.particle.io/datasheets/certifications/certification/#fcc
That being said, the P0 does not have a built in antenna, so it is impossible for it to be certified as an end product, and any other implementation of the P0 (besides the exact reference design of the Photon), will require recertification.
In that sense, it is a “from scratch” certification in the same way that the Photon was. However, in that scenario you are still building on the modular certification of the P0 itself which, in the grander scheme of things, represents by far the majority of the cost and complexity.
The P1, on the other hand, does have a fully intact RF system which can be leveraged by product creators to a greater degree. The P1, given that it is implemented according to the conditions of its FCC certification, only requires FCC 15b certification of “unintentional radiators”, and does not require recertification of part 15c (“intentional radiators”) which is the more complicated and expensive part.