Photon A/D pin input resistance?

I’ve looked all over for this but can’t seem to find it: what is the input resistance of the A/D pins on the Photon?

Have you looked at the µC datasheet?
https://github.com/spark/electron/blob/master/datasheets/STM32F205x%20Datasheet.pdf

You are not looking at a ohmic resistance but an impedance due to the sample and hold caps.

What exactly are you needing this info for?

No I hadn’t seen that. Unfortunately when I opened the link it only served up the first 24 pages and refused to go any further, and apparently the A/D stuff is on page 38.

I want the Photon to monitor its own battery supply voltage. Since I’m using a 12 V battery, I’ll need a voltage divider and I need to pick suitable resistors. I suppose using a zener diode might be another possibility.

I hadn’t considered the impedance aspect. Might there a better way to accomplish this?

@Michele, is the 12v battery powering a step-down regulator which in turns powers the Photon? The resistor divider approach is the best, making sure the voltage does not exceed 3.3v. Since you are measuring a DC voltage, you can also add a 0.1uF capacitor between the A/D input and GND to remove any ADC sampling effects. Chose resistors that keep the conducted current low but allowing the sampling capacitor (stated above) to charge quickly enough. A total resistance around 100K ohms is good.

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Exactly. I’m using a 5 V regulator connected to Vin. Thanks for the number. I’ll try 100K and see what that gives. When I get my new Photon. I smoked the old one over the weekend when I accidentally brushed its Vin jumper clip against the direct output of the solar panel (around 18 V at the time). Foo.

Hi @Michele

I might shoot for a lower value than 100k ohm. If I shoot for say 0.5mA current you get 24k ohm, so some close standard 1% resistor values might be 6.04k and 17.8k ohm. That way you would get 3.0403V out with 12V in.

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@bko, what I meant was the TOTAL resistance of the divider should be around 100K ohms to keep the current down.

@Michele, what type of regulator are you using to get from 12V to 5V?

Ah yes, I did figure that. I’m planning to do a 75% top end / 25% to ground split or as close as I can get with standard values.

Just a plain 7805. Anything better than that? This is for a Sparkfun Weathershield using the Photon and one of their Bluesmirf Bluetooth modules. It’s drawing a fairly hefty 110 ma. at 5 V.

Oh. OK, I’ll try that. Thanks.

@Michele, a 7805 dropping 7 volts at whatever current draw will essentially blow off that excess power as heat. You could consider a buck regulator like this Pololu unit which can supply 5v @ 600ma:

If you need more juice for peripherals, etc. you could use this one which supplies 5V @ 1A:

[quote=“peekay123, post:11, topic:24129”]
You could consider a buck regulator like this Pololu unit which can supply 5v @ 600ma:
[/quote]Thanks for the pointer. That sure looks like the ticket. They also have a version that outputs 3.3 V. Would that be better?

@Michele, if you don’t need 5V anywhere (sensors, etc), then you can inject the 3.3V directly to the 3.3v pin.

That’s a good point. In the interest of possible future expansion, I’ll go with the 5 V. This really does look like a much better way to go than the 7805.

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Well I got my Pololu regulator and it works great. Current draw on the Photon Weather Shield plus Bluetooth dropped from 110 ma. @ 12 V. to 32 ma. They shipped the same day I ordered it and even included two sets of headers with it - one straight and one 90 deg. Since the Photon conveniently has Vin and GND adjacent, I was able to mount the Pololu vertically right on the Weather Shield using the 90 deg. header. Thanks for that recommendation, Peekay!

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