# Smd modules, headerless version availability **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [August 1, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://community.particle.io/t/smd-modules-headerless-version-availability/51480 "2019-08-01T03:23:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![ScruffR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/community.particle.io/scruffr/32/6952_2.png) [@ScruffR](https://community.particle.io/u/ScruffR)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://community.particle.io/t/smd-modules-headerless-version-availability/51480/3 "2019-08-02T11:15:07Z")
In order to get your voice heard about your felt need for headerless Gen3 devices, you can vote here > [@Poll: Is there demand for Mesh devices without presoldered headers?](https://community.particle.io/t/poll-is-there-demand-for-mesh-devices-without-presoldered-headers/50406/1): > > With the Photon users had the option to decide whether you want one with or without presoldered headers. Unfortunately this is not an option for Mesh devices although there is a plethora of 3rd party FeatherWings that could be stacked ontop of these devices like this But with the currently only available option you’d have to either use a FeatherWing Doubler or end up having the display underneath the controller obstructing the display (not clever tho’ see_no_evil) There obviously is no … and add a comment to this thread > [@Comments: Is there demand for Mesh devices without presoldered headers?](https://community.particle.io/t/comments-is-there-demand-for-mesh-devices-without-presoldered-headers/50507): > > Another argument (actually two) for unsoldered headers would be the option to use short headers for size critical projects ([short female](https://www.adafruit.com/product/2940) and [short male](https://www.adafruit.com/product/3002)) or to use [stacking headers](https://www.adafruit.com/product/2830). _(I see you have already 👍)_ --- _[View the full topic](https://community.particle.io/t/smd-modules-headerless-version-availability/51480)._