Need Suggestion for external Cell and GPS antennas locations


#24

@peekay123 Ditto on only using one board plane. If you used the back side for some of the signals, you could have made some of those traces just a quarter of the length. I just received my first board back from OSHPark. Now I have to order a stencil… I didn’t realize how ridiculously small some of the SMD packages are. Happy prototyping!


#25

Thank you @peekay123 and @ninjatill for taking the time to view and comment. So I thought I was being clever by putting all the traces on the bottom of the board, lol. It does not show in the picture but I do have a ground plane on the top of the board. I will add one to the bottom as well.

Would you suggest I separate the power to bottom and data to top, or just mix and match to achieve the shortest lines possible? As a noob I don’t know if it is more important to have them on different sides or as short as possible. I would asssume shorter is better but I bet there is a sweet spot for both.

@peekay123 in answer to your question about how to attach the asset tracker. My plan was to solder two 18 row female headers to the new board, and two male pin rows to the asset tracker inner holes. The picture below of my sample kind of shows what I had planned. Not the best photo but I hope it gives you and idea if what I had in mind. Ignore some of the layout as this was an older revision print to check the line up of parts. You can see the pins the asset tracker inner holes are sitting on.

Suggestions, ideas, changes, all are welcome.

Cheers,
Tom


#26

Good morning Particle.
Here is this mornings update taking @peekay123 and @ninjatill suggestions. I added the second ground plane to the bottom of the board. Changed some of the routings to utilize both sides of the board. I have also added the decoupling caps… maybe went a little overboard and added ones to the SD card and OLED screen. I hope I can use just regular ceramic ones and bend them slightly as there is no way my hands are steady enough for the surface mount.

Eagle Image

OSH Park Top of Board.

OSH Park Back of Board


#27

Looks cleaner. And you probably won’t have as much noise on some of those signal lines. I remember back to my EE101 class where we had to etch our own PCBs. We could only do single-sided boards so the professor challenged us to make our traces with the least number of vias/jumpers. But fast forward almost 20 years and we have resources like OSHpark. When using a fab house, I figure that they are charging me for both sides whether I use them or not. So I still keep that “minimal number of vias” mentality but I wholeheartedly use both sides of the board to maximum effect. Here’s my first fab house board. They look big in the pic but are only 48mm to a side. Despite numerous revisions prior to ordering, I found a mistake as soon as I received them. Luckily it’s only on the silkscreen text. Haven’t tested it electrically yet.



#28

@GasGen, for your first board, it’s looking better! You may want to consider routing your RESET line on the top layer to get a less meandering line. Have you tried viewing the board in 3D to look at possible “tight spots” around the connectors, etc.?


#30

That is really clean looking. There is no way I could possible solder all those SM items. Hands just aren’t steady enough. lol.

Great work.


#31

Thank you sir. I have not been able to figure out how to export it into a viewable 3d file. Still trying to figure that part of Eagle out. Lots to learn.

Appreciate all the tips.

Cheers,
Tom


#32

The new boards arrived yesterday. Wired everything up and believe it or not it actually works. :joy:

These larger boards are more for internal use as clients won’t need the asset tracker. I need it because the loaner units tend to wander off. Soldering pins to the inside rows on the asset tracker was a little sketchy but I managed not to melt anything.

One thing to note is how difficult it is to make the JST plugs. Those crimp on inserts are so dang small, definitely not as easy as a Molex. I may change the inputs and such to something a little easier to make.

The 2mm screws did not arrive yet for the OLED but as soon as they do it will it get secured to the board… but I am impatient and wanted to see everything else mounted while I wait.

Input, feedback, criticism, ideas, are all welcome. Fire away.

Cheers,
Tom

Board Top

Board Bottom

Assembled

Swanky Switches. :slight_smile:


#33

Congrats on the first PCB working as expected!

I know it took lots of learning and tinkering to get to this point :beer:


#34

Thank you Ryan,
Now working on a smaller version along with trying to tackle Losant. I am making some progress but stuck on a few little things trying to graph the data… story of my life with the new IOT project I have created for myself. lol.


#35

Yea, you learn more through all the struggles :smile:

Did you start off with one of their tutorials where you follow along step by step to a finished working example?


#36

Sure did. Was able to get the Dial gauge to show the flow but can’t seem to get the time graph to work. Gotta read more examples and keep trying. Was able to make a table so I have that going for me. lol.


#37

Post a screenshot of the settings on the time graph you’re trying to get working.


#38

Ok so here is what I have going on.

I tried two different time series graphs. One as live and one as historical. Neither will show any data when set to mean or anything other than count.

For some reason, the gauge block works just fine.

Thank you for taking the time to look at this.

Settings for live graph

Settings History Graph

Dashboard

Workflow


#39

Weird the Gauge block works.

Show a screenshot of your gauge settings so I can compare because if the data is showing up for that same variable as expected then there is no reason it shouldn’t show up in the graph also.

Here is how my gauge block settings look:


#40

@RWB, @GasGen, the discussion is deviating substantially from the original post and topic title. May I suggest you start a different topic?


#41

Here she is.


#42

Sorry, @peekay123 I will try and start a new thread.


#43

Your data is not formatted correctly which is why your getting the " "} along with the numbers.

Take this to the Losant Forum or start a new thread here to get this cleared up. You’re almost there but got something wrong with the webhook formatting or the function in Losant that breaks the data out of the webhook.

@peekay123 I agree with you. @GasGen will start a new thread.


#44

Thanks Guys. Will do, sorry to derail the thread.