# Can Photon save/fetch data from local file server without using 3rd party cloud services? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cloud\ **Created:** [March 25, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.particle.io/t/can-photon-save-fetch-data-from-local-file-server-without-using-3rd-party-cloud-services/21442 "2016-03-25T20:20:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![rickkas7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/community.particle.io/rickkas7/32/8681_2.png) [@rickkas7](https://community.particle.io/u/rickkas7)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.particle.io/t/can-photon-save-fetch-data-from-local-file-server-without-using-3rd-party-cloud-services/21442/2 "2016-03-25T20:36:15Z")
Yes and no. The Particle products can communicate with non-cloud servers over TCP or UDP. The catch is that there is no SSH implementation, so you can’t use SFTP. While I love the Particle products, I would lean toward the Pi if you need SFTP. If you can use https, there is a client implementation of TLS for Particle products. > [@HTTPS client is here for the Photon! - by the glowfi.sh Team](https://community.particle.io/t/https-client-is-here-for-the-photon-by-the-glowfi-sh-team/15934): > > Hey Community, We have been working hard at glowfi.sh to deliver an HTTPS client for the Particle community and I am happy to say we are ready to release it thanks to all the work by glowfi.sh engineer @jersey99. Our client is built from matrixSSL, and you can check out our documentation, specs, and examples in our glowfishAPI repo for Particle [here](https://github.com/glowfishAPI/httpsclient-particle). Again, we are super excited to release this and welcome any comments, feedback, pull requests, etc.! Thanks Mike and the glowfi.sh Team [Sign u…](https://api.glowfi.sh/register) --- _[View the full topic](https://community.particle.io/t/can-photon-save-fetch-data-from-local-file-server-without-using-3rd-party-cloud-services/21442)._